User:Illuminate Void/Archive 1

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Sparring Partner
Hello, and welcome to BFF! I am one of the admins here. I saw your request for a person within your level range to fight with and, while I do not know of anyone still in the academy without a Zanpakuto, I would like to offer, with the user's permission, Susumu Bukiryou as a partner for a fight with your character. --The Raven Master 02:10, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Sparring
Oh really? Wow, thanks, although I did plan for my character to have an Asauchi at the very least. His class is close to graduating, so I figured the Shinigami would give them their Zanpakutou (training, and primarily to just get used to it, perhaps even speak with it), before officially giving it to them upon their graduation. Ive never done an RP battle before, so I'll probably need some advice.

Dragoon here, I accept your request for a spar. No need to worry about not knowing what to do, I'll walk you through it and try to make your first RP as fun as possible. Azure Dragoon 00:01, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

One of us creates the page and starts RPing from there. I'll go ahead and make the page and set up the scene, and post it here when it's ready. Azure Dragoon 03:12, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Here. http://bleachfanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Brawl_at_the_Academy Click the link, edit the page, and simply start typing where my post ended, after skipping a line to show that a different person is writing. Once you're done, you post, then I take my turn, and that continues until the RP is over. If you have any questions, ask me. Azure Dragoon 03:49, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

You've got it right, we each take a turn with an action and the other user responds accordingly. Hits are attempted, and it's up to the other RPer if it hits or not, depending on how the attack works and such. Making attacks hard to dodge is a good way to go, it's important to keep a balance between dodging and taking hits between the two RPers. The winner is thus decided on how well the RPer adapts and keeps the tide of the fight in his favor, keeping things like character stamina in mind. Azure Dragoon 19:13, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Hey dude
Wanna do an RP with some of my character's? Grizzaka 17:44, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Well i mean, can you do an arc with me if not then just a RP Grizzaka 18:39, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly i have no ideas but i do need to put my character in a few more stories before i can begin his next part of his training so i think an Arc would be good and it could be where my character meets up with ur's and fight or something like that Grizzaka 18:53, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Actually there is one character that meets that requirement so i would be happy to join ur arc his name is Adam martinez :) Grizzaka 19:19, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Well i have two others i can show but they are actually running away from the Soul-Society it's Ray Martinez and Aki Kastu they are pretty good i hope Grizzaka 19:48, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yes he is still in the acadamy and i meant Ray Martinez's training which i will do on my own after a few more stories and idk if there's a medium about these things so if you don't want to RP then i understand. 20:35, September 2, 2010 (UTC)Grizzaka

Welcome
This is a little late for a welcome... I know. But Welcome to BFF! I'm a pretty regular user here and I wanted to say that your characters are interesting to read. I hope I can RP with you in near future. すでに黒バン DarkNight (Talk to me! | My Contributions) 07:10, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well... Sorry about my stupid attitude. I just have anger management probelms... take Grizza, Raz and Jeremy for example... they know it. So I still hope we can RP. Please check out my possible Main Character if Hitsuke dies - Persia or G. Really sorry so um... that's it! Thats the end of my message. Thank You :D すでに黒バン DarkNight (Talk to me! | My Contributions) 06:18, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Welcome....
Welcome...and Hi..and Hello...and..uhmm..Greetings? Ahh ehhh uhmm... Welcome! Did i say that already? Oh right...sorry...Still have fun? Enjoy? And .....uhmm Hi?

Seriously, Welcome to BFF.....Just a regular user... and.... uhmm Hello? I got to stop doing that.. Lone Black Garuga 06:31, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Lieuntant fight.
I saw you saying you wanted to a fight with a lieutenant and i was thinking of making a character at abut third seat so if you want you could fight him it would be nice cause it will be my first character.Ichikue 16:11, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

My plan for the character.
Here is my plan, could you do me a favor and once you have read it could you delete it to stop coppying.

Thanks for the heads u.

I am really stumped on one thing. How do you make the content boxes. it sounds stpid but trying to make him i have no content box. plz help >Ichi.

Seijaku Ichi (Quiet one) Normal lieutenant or thrid seat. Good at kido and zanjustsu bt rubbish at hakuda. He can use a relatively slow shunpo.

Shikai: Piercing slicence (刺すような沈黙 ) ((sasu you na chinmoku)). Release command: Hush (静けさ) ((Shizua Kesa.)) Power: makes opponent lose his sense of hearing. This greatly puts any one offbalance. The stronger someones reiatsu the less effect it has. Real effect: When the command Lacerate (切り裂けた) ((Kiri sake ta))

Is used with Bloody scar (血の傷) ((chi no kizu)) it changes to s whip with a sharpened tip. This whip has the power to make spike come out of the leather.

Ichikue 17:17, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks.
Thank you for your help master.

Thank you for your help master.

Thank you for your help master.

etc..

Thanks a bunch.

Ichi Ichikue 18:41, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

image
what image??

The Ghost of the 4th - Cuarta 09:17, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

hmmm. sure. yeah. you can use them. but not the photos that I'm using. The series is good yes. And just put ~ ~ ~ ~, with no spaces on the talk pages to sign. that's all

The Ghost of the 4th - Cuarta 11:24, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Advice is like Snow
Obviously, much of the writing involved is something you have to work out through practice. However, I can tell you that part of writing an intelligent combatant is to avoid writing out your plans in detail. Instead, execute your action and give a hint to your next step: this will keep your opponent from using out-of-character knowledge in combat while not pulling off actions that do not seem possible. Hope this helps! --れび (talk to Lavi!) 18:22, October 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't have a good example for Bleach, but in an old Naruto RP that I did, I was inferior in terms of power and had to resort to ingenuity in order to hold my ground. The best example in that role-play, I used a smoke grenade to obscure my character's presence in one post, then stated that I used the smoke to sneak underneath my opponent through the use of a technique in the next post. --れび (talk to Lavi!) 18:43, October 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * You are most welcome. :) --れび (talk to Lavi!) 21:41, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

Shinsengumi
Hey saw the changes to the page and have to say I really like the set up. The thing is I actually created it to be the background for a story idea that I had with a friend. In a puff of anger I said I didn't feel like making stuff here but he still wants to go on with the story and in hindsight so do I. So I was wandering if it would be ok with you if he and I made a couple of characters from the organization and make references to it within the story? Maybe you and I could co-own the page? You can still develop the organization as needed by your story as I basically need to it be the common link for some of my characters (some of them being former members). Either way its your choice now. Cheers! Jet Talk 05:48, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

I understand perfectly man. Stuff like that is too much of a cliché. Thats why I am trying to take a new angle about the arrancar situation. Arrancar like Nel and Hallibel have man virtuous qualities as well besides being hollows. Nel helps Ichigo, Tia wants to protect her subordinates. So I started thinking how would a story told from their point of view seem. What if an arrancar who develops a desire to possess a heart and is willing to put his life on the line to try and get it? This was the main theme that was jumping around in my head when I started off the article. As I mentioned on the talk page, the shinsengumi members of mine who are wrongly accused flee to heuco mundo and meet this guy. The main villain in my arc had stolen an artifact which had the potential to give the arrancar a heart so he joins the fleeing members in their fight against the guy. Something like that. I have to run for a moment so have to cut this short. I had intended to let you know about my views about the new direction in which you have taken the organization but drifted off somewhere else. The article looks good right now btw. Much better than the crap I had made before. :) Cheers!Jet Talk 06:35, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

More of an emotional quest than a quest for power. He or she basically wants to complete their existence and know what difference having a heart makes. Are humans and shinigami better than him just because they possesses a heart? Along those lines. Mind explaining exactly what a Xiaochu is? Not really sure about the concept. I haven't really decided what will happen once he gains the heart. That event will happen at the very end of the story, if it even happens. His quest to try and gain the heart is what I'll be focusing on. And about the Shinsengumi. I agree with what you said that as the organization is right now it will give a much wider sphere of influence and awareness than before. And having the squads on two shifts makes them much more stable. If one is somehow incapacitated then the reserve can step in. Cheers! Jet Talk 07:12, October 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree completely. It will be very difficult to portray properly the emotional development that he goes through during the course of the journey. Ulquiorra is actually one of my favorite bleach characters and his dying moments were partly responsible for me thinking along these lines. Will end up taking a lot of time to just get the support cast ready before I can start the story. But lets see how long it takes. Will start on the main character now. Cheers! Jet Talk 05:48, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Shinsengumi Blues
I like the additions that you made to the organization: it really makes the group stand out in comparison to the Royal Guard. You should check with Sei if you can include the mentioning of Yaolu or Britannia in the article, since I usually have a problem with my articles being mentioned by other articles that do not appear to be related to my article without being notified. --れび (talk to Lavi!) 14:50, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Go ahead (with the spy that is). Keep in mind that the Guard Division keeps tabs on suspicious activities as the domestic police force. --れび (talk to Lavi!) 16:12, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Sōzōshin
I have say no to the Sōzōshin being a part of their organization, because the Sōzōshin are limited (for now) to the Kawahiru Clan, and considering their history and the remaining members of their family, no one would take part in that organization. Also, I also made Jet aware of this too, Shinsengumi is the same name used for an organization in Rurouni Kenshin, and even the picture is from that anime. My concern, as of now, will be a name change. --Seireitou-shishō (My True Identity 18:39, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Britannia, very well. Yaolu, no. Yaolu maintains the strongest force in the world, being the equivalent of the US in our world. I doubt they would allow minor nations to possess spies there. But, regarding Britannia, Lavi is part-owner/commandeer, so you'll need to ask him about Britannia's reference. --Seireitou-shishō [[File:Seireitou's signature picture.jpg]] (My True Identity 19:23, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Britannian Character Request
Sure. I didn't have many ideas of what I wanted to do with the Twelfth Division Rebellion, anyways. I created the event mainly to give a demonstration of the noted fallacy of the Britannian distribution of power and it ended up allowing me to link characters together. --れび (talk to Lavi!) 02:06, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Nelliel
I have my email available on my user page if you're willing. --れび (talk to Lavi!) 21:24, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Bonds
Hey! I have started out on my story and have got the character page and the very first page for the story itself up. The character is here: Lucio Valcárcel, and the story is here: Bonds. Could you please give me your views about how they are coming out. Specially the format in which I am writing the story, whether it is comprehensible or not. I am trying out the writing format right now so if this one is not good then will try out something new. btw I read your Is this really heaven post. Very interesting read mate. Cheers! Jet Talk 00:28, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Nelliel
... Oh, I forgot that the Oasis skin doesn't have it. You can email me at lavi.bookman@live.com --れび (talk to Lavi!) 01:20, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

....
Ok Look, the Central 46 Area Is not for normal users at all, unless your going to make a request but even then your not allowed in Our discussion area, so the fact that you even know what Seireitou said means you were snooping in an area you had no business.
 * Now on to the comment you left talking about respect. As the administration of this wikia it doesnt matter whether or not we earned your personal respect, we run this wikia as given to us by then central wikia by being admins and higher ups thus we have the final say in all wikia matters and most of all and not to sound smug but we wholeheartedly have to be respected from the time you join this particular wikia. I understand that on a personal level you may not think you should respect us, but this is a site where its supposed to anonymous meaning you check your personal feelings at the door at sign-up Sorry to sound like an ass (In my opinion I do sound like one) but this had to be said.-- 楽しい Vui Kiryu's Eternal Eyes.png (吐露) 08:41, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Infoboxes
You can add your own infoboxes, though I would strongly recommend seeing if an existing infobox can fit what you need before making a new one. --れび (talk to Lavi!) 21:08, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

hey
just wanted to say hi since never got the chance too, i've been busy over at nf for a while, so look me up if u wanna rp or sumthing because im officially back to bff and will be as active as i can....--Master of the Mangekyo Sharingan 15:21, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

yeah sure no problem, i don't mind if u use ur Shinsengumi char, i'll be using my version of Zangetsu (Shadow Rage), if u dont mind that is, let me know and give me a link to the character ur going to use and we can then set up an rp......--Master of the Mangekyo Sharingan 17:46, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

i have to say very impressive, i like how u made him very strong and his abilites are appropriate for someone of his rank, he will be an interesting opponent to fight against, also liked the Spiritual Awareness part of his ability. I wonder what his zanpakuto is going to be like, anyways he is good, also i am also working on a char at the moment if u would take a look at him and tell me what u think it will be greatly appreciated, Zangetsu (Shadow Rage), let me know what u think.......--Master of the Mangekyo Sharingan 20:34, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

actually i created a technique similar to the one that u just mentioned its called Kagetsu (下弦の月, Waning Moon) u can check it out in the article, and also yes i'll be creating a technique similar to the finla getsuga tensho still need to work out the basics of his bankai techniques, but if u have any more sugestions then please feel free to let me know, i am always open to new ideas and techniques. and about the rp story arc i am up for anything and i'd like to hear about ur ideas, so let me know, thanks........--Master of the Mangekyo Sharingan 21:35, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

okay i don't have a problem with the synopsis of the story arc but, the timeline for the story when does it take place before or after nagato leaves soul society, because if the story takes place while he is a captain then i can also use this arc to write up some history for another character of mine, Takashi Kosuda, who was the former sixth division captain, so let me know what do u think......--Master of the Mangekyo Sharingan 22:06, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

okay then no problem, then nagato can ask a former captain for help and we can start them out as friends who knew each other since their days as captain, so this story arc will take place a few after takashi left the soul society and is now a former captain living in karakura town and nagato has approached him in order to help out the with the investigation and thus our story arc begins, so is that alright.......--Master of the Mangekyo Sharingan 22:32, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

nice trailer and yeah it looks intresting, we can work with suthing like this.....--Master of the Mangekyo Sharingan 22:43, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

okay then let me know once ur finished with the character, it shouldn't take more than a two or three days, so i can wait and finish up anything else i have going on in the site, and also besides that we need to dicuess some other things like, which other characters are we gonna use, can't think of anything else. well anyways let me know.......--Master of the Mangekyo Sharingan 08:57, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

sure no problem since i'll be busy all day tomorrow and won't get time to edit much here, so we can start wheever ur ready, and i'll have a go through of ur oneshot chapter and i'll let u know what i think of it......--Master of the Mangekyo Sharingan 18:46, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Review
Aloha, Void. I've noticed that you reviewed Lucio Valcárcel, and I was wondering if you'd do the same for my character, Shiki. If you decline, that's fine; if you accept, great! Please get back to me soon. Thanks and have a great day! ^^  すじ  (talk to Joker!) 17:20, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Question
Hello, my names Kenji. I've seen some of your work and I'd like to say hello and good job. I know this is a big ask, especially out of the blue like this, but I was wondering if you'd give me a second opinion on the group of swordsman me and a friend made earlier. It's called the Yuengiri, and it would be appreciated. Kenji Hiroshi 20:09, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Review
In regards to the slang terms, I noticed some of the usage of "it's", with the apostrophe-"s," as things like "it has." I personally avoid using those sorts of contractions, especially in descriptions, because I feel that it is among the more uncommon contractions. I prefer to write with simple language in order to focus more on the flow of the overall concept. --れび (talk to Lavi!) 23:07, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hi.
Hello, I'm a new user here and I love reading your work. I need some help on my first character on this site & I wish you could help me? Frozenflame99 12:07, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Alexander's pic
I got it from Fate/Stay Night's Gilgamesh. :3 Sadow-sama 17:56, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

Review
I like the story. Personally I like the route you chose by using Unohana instead of one of the other captains that are constanly used. That brought a good refreshing air into your piece. You could do with more details as you already know. I would like to know how he dodges or if he gets cut and loses a few hairs or gets a scar...something along those lines. I like the character there too. He has the mysterious quality that makes him into a good character trying to fight for captaincy (one of the hardest ways to do it). Keep up the good work and orry about the late response. RazeOfLight 19:09, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

Howdy
Heya doin', Void. Been getting up to much, then? Sorry for the late reply, but I'm practically swamped with psychology revision for Fridays exam, so I wasn't online much. As for the story idea, I'm liking the concept, though I've got a few problems with some of the points. Being able to dissolve dimensions would be a pretty big feat, even if someone did have the Hogyoku at their disposal. One of its limitations is that it can only materialize the things within the users strength, so unless they've got spiritual energy that could level a few descent-sized mountains, then it'd be pretty difficult to pull it off and there's been no accounts of multiple people using the Hogyoku at once (and that would raise the problem of multiple desires that could be materialized if they all didn't share the same view). Although similar in principle, the sheer size and complexity of that action would make dissolving the barriers between dimensional plains much harder, than say, dissolving the barrier between races. If you've got a way around that, then there's no real problem, though :)

Now, as for the time-line idea. I've always liked traveling through time in stories ever since I watched DBZ, and I done an arc before that heavily followed the theme of time travel. The Hogyoku, especially when the power becomes unstable, could cause such an event to occur, because we've never seen it happen in the canon to know; so the possibilities are there. But that leads me to my next question: How would the heroes of the story get from one timeline to another? Unless one of them possessed, say, a zanpakutō that offered some variation of time travel, or could they simply walk from one time-line to another in a similar manner to how Ichigo could enter the Valley of Screams in the 1st Bleach film? If you've got a solution to those, then I'm sure you could make yourself a pretty interesting story-line :) Kenji Hiroshi 19:43, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oriheme? Now you've gotten me curious lol. I was half expecting a zanpakutō to be in play, or the ōin to play a part, so that is a surprise! Well, I'm gonna say nothing more about problems, 'cause you seem to have a good grasp of what you want to do and the direction you want to take it in and I wish you all the luck with that, Void. With this many time-lines intermingling, though, you'll have a lot of interesting, and potentially different, versions of characters popping up all over the place, so it'll be interesting to read through and see how you work all that into the story. I'm happy you ran the idea past me though, 'cause I'm looking forward to reading it, now :) Kenji Hiroshi 20:37, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Howdy pal. Well, aside from hunter and trickers, you could have shadows; as in an Arrancar who specializes in sneak attacks, ambushes and raids. Think of it as an Arrancar version of the Omnisukidō. Or guardian type, who focuses solely on protection, with great skill in formulating defensive operations. In a group of Arrancar, they'll be people trying to oppose them, so a defensive minded one may help. That's about all I've got, dude, and I hope it helps ya out. That's the problem with good stories. A lot of planning needed lol :) Kenji Hiroshi 07:30, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Diabolus Request
Hey Void, we never really exchanged words but may I make a Diabolus? The idea is very awesome and I want to try and make one of the Diabolus--I am the Fallen Death Sentence 23:10, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yay! Ty :) Imma get started right away--I am the Fallen Death Sentence 02:05, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Diabolus Request
I've read the Diabolus thread, and I'm incredbly exited about it. I'd wonder if it'd be possible for me to make a Diabolus character, though I'm uncertain if you wish for it to advance this quickly or not. At any rate, I hope I get a positive reply.

Njalm2 13:19, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Valhalla and the Tournament of Greatest Warrior.
Since you did give me useful info do you want to take part in the this tournament?Td5 21:01, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well sorry for the last reply in the shower. Now as for the details of the tournament.

The requirements is that the character as to be good or a formed bad/evil character turned good, or at least a neutral character.

Another one and this is not a requirement but still. The character that is being used is adviced to be a Shunsui or Aizen class fighter. As to keep the theme of Norse belief only the Worthy were admited into Valhalla.

As for battles. I choice the first matches and after once the winner of these matches will fighter the winner of the next group an so on

Example. and these are the people in it so far.

Kenji Vs Yuki group 1

Wandering Shinobi and Sei group 2 and so on....now this is the after the first round it woul look like this

Last say Kenji won and Sei won

group 1 Kenji winner

group 2 Sei winner

Now Kenji and Sei's characters fight. Do you understand.?Td5 22:57, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well if you any average captain class or even a powerful lieutenat level character will do as I am just trying to fill the ranks now. Also and yes I am still working on Valhalla and the prize's grammer but the prize is Zettaiteki.Td5 03:07, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Bestia Notice
I think I'm going to make a Bestia character soon. Becouse there's no characters of that type yet. And I thoroughly enjoy making Diabolus characters.

Answer
I'm surprised that not too many people have made Diabolus, but I'm fully willing to help with the creation of other members of Dorothy's army. As for the roleplay with Rutilus, it'd likely be possible that Dorothy approached his false self. John van Lupe in the college. This wouldn't be suspicious either. A pretty lady looking for a College idol, sounds inconspicious to me.

And yes, I will help you create a few other characters. I have tons of ideas anyway; the Diabolus are so extremely varied anyway. And I've allready made Boolg, though he's rather useless in most cases. Moreover, I'm flattered by the good feedback I recieved on Hiroya, I had frankly not expected it. It was a very nice surprise.


 * Well, that is a really good idea, after all. Diabolus are so varied that they would be able to fill most roles fluently. Well. Rutilus would be quite the Assassin/Fighter, though he'd also be able to hunt and scout. Due to his speed, keen intellect and most of all. His command of wild-dogs. But yeah, I'm really into the idea, you could perhaps also make a platoon for THAT kind of work, and another for OTHER kind of work. Quite like small squads. Though I still think that having about five people in a small group would be the best, each of whom have different roles. One deals with physical combat, another with ranged/magical combat. One insane Diabolus Scientist. And most likely some sort of "Tank" Diabolus, whose skin is so tough that he's able to block attacks that would otherwise wipe them all out. And though lacking speed displays a tremendous strenght. Finally. A "Spy" type Diabolus, which work on infiltration and scouting. In the case of the Spy type, I can only imagine a Diabolus with Spider-like features. Whom are usually never seen among his/her allies. And instead weaves traps, webs and such from the shadows. Manipulating people to go against one another, likely with the added ability of being exceptional on shapeshifting: This might seem like what Dorothy is currently doing, but in this case. The Diabolus would play more on shifting people against one another. And perhaps gain power from eating his/her lovers, like spiders usually do.


 * Also in the sense of Hiroys vs Dorothy. It'd be abit hard, becouse Hiroya's commonly in his gigai, and moreover. If he ever encountered Dorothy he'd stay far away, and Dorothy wouldn't be the type to approach him either. I can imagine, in terms of roleplay. It'd be much more likely that Yagami sought out and attempted to apprehend Hiroya based on Soul Societies views on him as a very dangerous criminal.

Orihime
Hm... well, I don't see a flaw in your reasoning. I guess I can be willing to put aside my dislike for this, but I'll make sure you're aware that I will be keeping tabs on her usage. Even if she's more mature, I hope you'll still stick to some of her most deepest character traits. --Seireitou-shishō (My True Identity 05:08, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Possible Roleplay
Right, in the possibility of future roleplay it depends wholly upon the characters involved. The Dorothy & Rutilus RP is pretty much given, though in the case of Dorothy and some of my other characters. It is abit hard: Hiroya for one would recognize her powers almost instantly. And thus he'd stay far away. Not becouse he fears being beaten (A fight between those two can go both ways) but simply becouse fighting an opponent of that magnitude would require him to get serious. And thus likely causing alot of havoc. That being said Hiroya would love to look into spells such as Ignis Magia and Lævateinn both of which can only be gained from fighting Dorothy. And for future reference, It'd take approximately five sights of each of them in order to learn them. Given their alien complexity, and even then. He'd not be able to copy the spell completely, but giving him an alternate version.


 * If the roleplay is about a fight, then Kenshin Yagami would be much more plausible. Becouse as a member of the Royal Guard, and as a former Omnitsukido Commander, and member. As well as his heightened spiritual awareness. Kenshin would likely, if anyone were. Be assigned to hunt down Hiroya Ginkarei in order to prevent his advancement. There's of course some balance problems here though. Most obvious is the fact that Kenshin's Bankai is inaccessible, and even more so. Hiroya's immunity to Illusions whom target his five senses. Which ultimately makes Noble Phantasm useless. The only illusion which would actually work on him would be Water Moon.


 * In the sense of how roleplays are done. I can of course see that it is done trough fics, however. At the current time. I've only seen one of these. And that had no respect for the parties. It was more or less only "X throws Y into a wall" and "Y cuts X across his cheek" I for one would avoid these things, becouse In my eyes. That is Powergaming: Becouse it takes the choice to act away from the opponent. I would much rather it was "X attempts to outmaneuver Y with a magnificently executed feint." And indeed, in any Roleplays, I'd follow that example myself.


 * Other possible roleplays include Ryuichi and Rutilus. Ryuichi might've attended the same school that Chris Splinter went to, and thus. When all the other people were tricked into believing that Chris' shocking change was completely natural and that he had always looked like that. Ryuichi would be completely unaffected due to his High Spiritual Power. That would most likely earn Ryuichi's interest, no?

Njalm2 11:00, February 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * In the case of possible aggressive roleplay. Such as fights. In addition to the ones stated above. Is the possibility of Ryuichi vs Rutilus. Though the latter wouldn't willingly attack Ryuichi without being taunted; That should prove no problem due to the fact that Ryuichi himself seems to be quite inclined to attack Rutilus on a whim. Given his obsession with fighting.

Right, with the Ryuichi - Rutilus Roleplay. I don't know too much, Ryuichi attacking Rutilus might be plausible, but given the difference between them. It wouldn't be a fair fight. Rutilus is more or less superiour in everything except Inteligence and Spellcasting. And perhaps Durability. Though I'm aware I shouldn't judge him solely by his skills. It is still easy to see whom would have the advantage here.

Then again, even if Ryuichi loses: Rutilus wouldn't really harm him, or kill him so. You lose nothing but the fight, besides. It could open up to interesting roleplay in the future. Ryuichi would likely take this defeat incredibly serious, given his personality.

And who knows, perhaps give him darker thoughts which can be exploited by other Diabolus such as Dorothy in the future. As I believe that Ryuichi would be much too proud to accept a deal with Rutilus. Njalm2 13:50, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * As for the possible battle between Dorothy and Hiroya. Kidnapping the kids in the Kindergarten would most definately rile him up alot. Enough to at the very least show himself. And possibly confront her. Though he'd likely have her move faar away from civilization before fighting. And actually. He'd actually open up a Gateway to Hueco Mundo or such. Because they'd likely endanger the balance of the worlds were they to fight in the Human World. Another question would naturally be. Why would Dorothy even care for him? He's a Shinigami so she can't acclaim his soul. He's immune to her advances becouse of his Sexuality. And he's powerful enough to be able to kill her, and vice versa. Though for that notice. He'd naturally be very interested in getting to analyze her original spells. Lævateinn and Ignis Magia, for example.
 * As for the Kenshin Yagami character. I'm uncertain if he'd be able to be used in any Roleplay. Due to the fact that none of my current characters reside in Soul Society. And that the only character whom would be able to handle him is Hiroya. Whom happens to have very crippling advantages against him.

In regards to the Diabolus Squad
Right, you asked me to help you make the first Squad of Diabolus, but for this to work out well, we need to sort of whom should make whom. So far, I've made two characters, whom fit into different roles. Namely Infiltrator and Fighter/Assassin. I personally believe that the Scientist shouldn't be a member of the squads, but instead work on their own. Ensuring that the opponent doesn't know their location. As I see it, the current list of roles are like this.

Assassin/Fighter - Rutilus Maculosus Lupus

Infiltrator/Spellcaster - Lady Rosalinde

These are only two though, the only remaining Diabolus after those two are Boolg, Dorothy and Sicarius. Sicarius, now I can't imagine him as doing anything in Dorothy's army. Dorothy herself is the leader, and such it doesn't quite work. Boolg wouldn't be allowed to do anything even remotely dangerous by Rutilus, and he's not powerful enough to make a difference eitherhow. With this I come with some new suggestions to roles.

Supporter: This is the guy whom handles the support cases. He or she has the ability to heal injuries, wether by innate abilities, or by magic. And they can potentially cloak their allies in an anti-reiatsu field, so as to obscure the group both from sight and from being sensed. And possibly summoning the group members to their location, or create portals for quick travelling. In battle, they can possibily accelerate the flow of Spiritual Energy in the fighting Diabolus, so as to improve their abilities. Though combat-wise they're generally very limited. Out of combat they're generally very perceptive, and make good Tacticians.

Defender: Very sturdy Diabolus whom possess excellent resilence. Limited Regeneration, immense strength. Their primary objective is to shield the more vulnerable Diabolus from powerful attacks; Such as Rutilus being quite the Glass-Cannon, though he can take some punishment. He falls pretty easily against the right kind of opponents. The Defender would help to protect the more valuable members of the group too. And should commonly have a good deal of defensive abilities. Examples would involve Rosalinde in her Monster form.

Mentalist/Intel-Gatherer: The Mentalist is some kind of Diabolus that trough innate Telepathy, manipulation or magic can delve into a hostages mind in order to secure useful information. I quite like the concept of these using Psychokinesis or such to attack. Or who knows, cause discord and confusion trough mental attacks. The Intel-Gatherer works in much the same way, only that he or she lacks mental abilities, and thus concentrates on espionage to get the job done.

Spellcaster/Ranged Artillery: I for one realized that Rutilus is poorly equipped to handle Long-range fighters. Or enemy Spellcasters. And for this reason. I think that the group needs one who's adept at picking off opponents from afar. Rutilus has limited amounts of abilities in this field. These Diabolus stand at usually close proximity to the Defender. And bombard the opponent with powerful abilities or Sorcery. Whereas they're protected by the Defender.

That was everything, for now. I'll attack you the next time I get a few ideas!

Njalm2 15:46, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Future Roleplay (Revisited) & Reply
Right then, I'll first respond to your response.

The characters you mentioned. Youma of Darkness and Tedlar seem rather promising to me. Since in my opinion one cannot use Dorothy in the squad (She's the leader, . I'll be making an Artillery Daemon myself; (I'm concidering using a Wind motif for this guy) this'll expand the Diabolus' army by a large margin. Besides. Creating Diabolus is so much fun. Besides with this, we'll have created three each, which evens the numbers quite well. (Four on my part, if you count Boolg) Besides, her army needs more than one Squad in my opinion. Though we can roleplay with the first one for now.

Also I have some additional suggestions (They never really seem to stop)


 * I suggest playing upon "Grades" as to determine the strength of Diabolus. Becouse they are so varied in abilities and the likes that simply Bestia, Daemon and Arcus Daemon doesn't cut it in my opinion. I suggest giving them grades whom relate to their level of power. Becouse I've noticed that we've begun using Lower-Class Daemon, Middle-Class Daemon, and Upper-Class Daemon: The cause is pretty obvious, as I stated before, "Daemon" doesn't cut it, becouse theres so many differences between them.


 * Also, I suggest having certain "Magician" characters whom control Diabolus trough powerful spells. And Diabolus having weaknesses against Silver, and being suspectible to Pentagrams. Like they are in history.

Finally, you forgot to answer to the "Possible Roleplay" update, and thus I'll just link it here:

"Right, with the Ryuichi - Rutilus Roleplay. I don't know too much, Ryuichi attacking Rutilus might be plausible, but given the difference between them. It wouldn't be a fair fight. Rutilus is more or less superiour in everything except Inteligence and Spellcasting. And perhaps Durability. Though I'm aware I shouldn't judge him solely by his skills. It is still easy to see whom would have the advantage here.

Then again, even if Ryuichi loses: Rutilus wouldn't really harm him, or kill him so. You lose nothing but the fight, besides. It could open up to interesting roleplay in the future. Ryuichi would likely take this defeat incredibly serious, given his personality.

And who knows, perhaps give him darker thoughts which can be exploited by other Diabolus such as Dorothy in the future. As I believe that Ryuichi would be much too proud to accept a deal with Rutilus.
 * As for the possible battle between Dorothy and Hiroya. Kidnapping the kids in the Kindergarten would most definately rile him up alot. Enough to at the very least show himself. And possibly confront her. Though he'd likely have her move faar away from civilization before fighting. And actually. He'd actually open up a Gateway to Hueco Mundo or such. Because they'd likely endanger the balance of the worlds were they to fight in the Human World. Another question would naturally be. Why would Dorothy even care for him? He's a Shinigami so she can't acclaim his soul. He's immune to her advances becouse of his Sexuality. And he's powerful enough to be able to kill her, and vice versa. Though for that notice. He'd naturally be very interested in getting to analyze her original spells. Lævateinn and Ignis Magia, for example.
 * As for the Kenshin Yagami character. I'm uncertain if he'd be able to be used in any Roleplay. Due to the fact that none of my current characters reside in Soul Society. And that the only character whom would be able to handle him is Hiroya. Whom happens to have very crippling advantages against him."

Tae Kwon Do
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Second Reply
I've seen Yu Yu Hakusho myself and the whole grade thing is pretty good. And well, Toguro was able to completely crush the main cast with hardly any effort. Despite him only being an upper B. So doing that with the Diabolus castes Daemon and Arcus Daemon should be easily understood; Which opens up the question, is it possible to advance from Daemon to Arcus Daemon?

Also, I didn't talk about more Spellcasters, what I meant with "Magicians" are humans whom have enough knowledge about the Diabolus to summon and control them by force of will. Sorcerers if you will.


 * In regards to Hiroya. I had for a moment forgotten Dorothy's ability to shapeshift. Which is indeed troublesom. Given that if she shapeshifts into a man, its only one thing that protects him: Which is how she "Acts" the situation out in question; If she doesn't put up a decent act. She can't hope for her spell to take effect. Becouse Hiroya is naturally harder to charm than old priests in their age of passing. This means that she'll have to be really convincing for it to work: But if she somehow manages to suceed in this. Well, I guess that she'll become much more powerful.


 * Moreover, in the fight. I feel obliged to mention that Dorothy would likely be challenged to the full extent of her ability and beyond. So for this, It stands certain to me that she'd fight Hiroya on more or less equal ground. They have different skills and such whom surpass the other one, and an even amount of them as well. It is possible that Hiroya's Kidò abilities are higher and more vast than her own. Given his tireless study of it for many centuries, and given the abilities of Shirohane to boot. Though as I see it, this is effectively evened out by Dorothy's Immense Durability, and Immense Strength. And from there, Hiroya's Speed is pretty much superiour to hers. So is his Swordsmanship, although that is largely irellevant given that he cannot harm her with his blade. These are however evened out by her Regeneration. I find it good to decide these things beforehand. Then we avoid quarelling mid-RP.


 * Right, Rutilus and Ryuichi would indeed have alot of potential RP-wise. I've roleplayed for quite some years now, and I'll naturally take Ryuichi's intellect into careful consideration, and if he does something that catches Rutilus by surprise: He'll naturally hit. Though its worth noting that Rutilus ain't as stupid as he appears.


 * Another point I want to press is the possibility of "Demon Kings" S-Ranked Arcus Daemon whom serve as the lords of hell. And whom are eternally restricted to it: Becouse in my opinion, if one of those came to the human world. Their very presence would undouptly turn the world into upheaval. Tornadoes, Tsunamis, Massive Earthquakes. I suggest a number of three or so. And at a later date, one of them could arrange for a tournament or so. Though they themselves would naturally not fight. Perhaps loan names from famous demonic characters. Lucifer, Beelzebub, Gehenna, etc.


 * Finally. I'd like for you to check out the Clan Mortflèau page later on and see if they could be possible enemies for the Diabolus. Who knows, perhaps they make the Diable Faucher's trough the souls of Diaboløus. Would make sense, concidering that it is roughly transelated as "Devil Scythe"

This concludes my message.

The small niche we forgot
Right. How are we going to do this roleplay then, concidering that it is Ryuichi/Dorothy whom would be the people of interest here. I assume the creation of the actual Fic falls to you, and if you name it something which is easy to interpret for me. It should be pretty good alltogether.

I suggest naming the Fic something which really gets the point across, such as "Investigating the Oddity" or "Playing with the Pacifist" things like that. As those would really catch my attention straight away.. or well, anything would work I suppose. Given that I always take a look at your articles.

At any rate. I look forward to it!

Njalm2 19:06, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Changes on the Diabolus page
Right, now that you're back I want to ask what you think of the weaknesses that I wrote for the Diabolus. As well as your opinion in regards to Flamen. And naturally, I really look forward to see those two new Diabolus characters you're going to make!

Lets also try to get our roleplay started pretty soon!

Njalm2 22:03, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reply to your last message
Right, I'm really happy that you've updated her spells (Gives Hiroya more spells to copy when they actually fight) I also happened to notice that you seem to have been slightly inspired by my way of handling spells (Either that or I'm being overly self-concious!)

And well, reason I did that roleplay with Twilight was to check if I knew how it was done. Don't want to disapoint you or anything; Though I'm not that happy that Hiroya had to use the arguably most powerful of the Sacred Spells in his first official battle! :O

And I'm really looking forward for that new character of yours. And you should really get around to make Dorothy's Army soon. And as previously stated, you'll be the one to create to RP page when the time comes - Given that in both instances it is your character whom seeks mine out. Ryuichi -> Rutilus, Dorothy -> Hiroya.

At any rate, I'm heavily looking forward to our roleplay!

I read about Aurora, quite a good name. And her abilities certainly follows the concept quite nicely. I especially like the ability labelled as Cachinnus - It is really good, and well-made. I also like the fact that she seems to be a very bad combatant, which puts balance is that aspect.

I also hope you can take a look at Flamen and tell me what you think, though he's largely incomplete.

Ahh, well its a pretty intriguing roleplay, I didn't mind the fact that you acted out Hiroya (You did so quite well too, I might add!) and Aurora creeped me out alittle; which is good. Diabolus should be creepy, better not risk that the race turns into another "Twilight Trilogy" Archetype.

And well, about the battle, Hiroya's not inclined to fight (especially if Dorothy doesn't attack herself) besides, he generally doesn't assume fighting to be the base option.

And, Dorothy might want them to relocate somewhere more desolate as Hiroya will simply not fight in the city. Even if she does harm the child, he's not so good a person as to put one person and her family above the rest of the people.

I'll however eagerly await your response! I think it'll be really fun!

Ahh, I see.. well, it is your turn and I'm waiting eagerly!!

Njalm2 23:31, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

New Suggestion
Right, as I once suggested. Is the addition of a fourth rank - namely the Demon Lords or something similiar. Arcus Daemons are quite numerous after all. I suggest a number between 3-5 of immensly powerful Diabolus - Whom work as some sort of Feudal Lords if you may for the other demons. I also suggest calling these Diabolus something along the lines of, well the best I've come up with is the Optimates which transelates directly as Great Lords.

The existance of these particular Diabolus could undouptly open for many posibilities such as events and the likes. Tournaments, etc.

Allright, I've made one of the Optimates myself too. Arthfael "Lucifer" Mendax

I'd love to get started on the roleplay of course. And it needn't be a battle at all. I'll leave to you to create the fic itself, given that you're seemingly the one whom would do the prologue this time.

Njalm2 00:23, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Hey you and Njalm2-cun like demons you want these as another type kind of an old project of mine. A call this kind of demon a Seima no Hamestsu (Holy Demon of Destruction). Like in Yu Yu Hakesho they are like Holy S+ rank demons like Raizen, Mukuro, and Yomi sidenote Mukuro is my favorite demon.: The Twilight of Your Despair 13:58, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Very well. Do you have any ideas on powers I can give them I do better with gods than with demons. Also, while I am not changing the Kosumosukihakus the immortal pagan gods I do apperciate your help and if you every want to make one let me know so I can help.: The Twilight of Your Despair 02:35, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Dark Brotherhood
Yo! I finally managed to write up Michael, check him out. I plan on adding some more art and templates, but for now it's at least legible and organized. I was reading over the prologue to your game with Njalm2, and while I like it, something feels off about having the child die. It's not morality or anything- more like, it isn't really in keeping with the spirit of the bleach series. So I was wondering if you'd consider retconning the overdose death-report in lieu of an introduction I'd write. I could be involved in tracking down the tyke and exorcising the devil in him, since Michael would have arrived in town recently anyway. Let me know what you think. Chrono Nexus 12:34, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Review of our Roleplay & Random Chatter
Right, this was done pretty well on both our parts - if I do have to say so myself. I think we got the roleplay done pretty well, and I allowed for one of the children to die because that makes it more realistic, good does not prevail ALL the time; I've roleplayed for five years and I've never had any problems with one of them taking the lead, in my opinion that is how it SHOULD be.

The character whom portrays the Antagonist of the arc is the one whom pushes the plot forward, henceforth I don't mind being forcibly directed: I assume I'll have to play the very same role in the case of Rutilus and Ryuichi, when that time comes.

I assume that its become quite clear that Rutilus is pretty much a character with some good-guy qualities to him; my jurisdiction for this is the fact that I think that how the Diabolus is created matters a lot in terms of personality: Most of the Diabolus up til now have been created by sins and the likes, Rutilus was created from the hurt and suffering from an abandoned and mistreated dog, which should naturally affect his personality. He knows how it feels to be hurt, he's familiar with feelings such as loss and betrayal, and of course, he's still a Diabolus. This grants him something of a twisted form of sympathy, like Grimmjow and Ulquiorra - and of course, there's an unwritten rule that in every "Villain" organization there's always at least one whom have good tendencies.

Additionally, I think we should begin devising the Relationships within Dorothy's Army, I think that for example Rutilus and Aurora would get along well. She's somewhat similiar to himself and as such he'd probably regard her as being a member of his pack: Like a little sister of sorts. Flamen & Rutilus have a rather tense mood directed to one another. Rosalinde is technically not a member of Dorothy's army yet.

And yes, in case you didn't get the "Obvious" hints (You're pretty smart so I'm 100% sure that you did), Boolg DOES have romantic feelings for Rutilus - because I find the whole.. gender-confused, homosexual and ugly mix pretty amusing.

Finally, I conclude this post by asking for a formal in-depth review for Rutilus. As I'm currently unaware of where to go from this point onwards; and I hate being inactive on a character, not to mention that he needs to be fleshed out abit more before I deem him fit for roleplay. Given that you created the race, and how they're made as well as their general outlook you would be the best one to review him, in my opinion.

Njalm2 13:25, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Diabolus may I make one? As while I did create the Kosumosukihaku the immortal Pagan God species. I do like demons. I just like none angelic, Holy, Divine, Heavenly, Sacred, Celestial, etc beings like pagan gods more than demons and angels. But I still like angels and demons.: The Twilight of Your Despair 22:28, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

In regards to our roleplay
Right, I've briefly updated Rutilus article as well as added a new Bestia-Race, called the "Barghest" I hope you don't mind that, and in truth I had been toying with the idea of Rutilus employing Hell Hounds for quite some time now, the Barghests are the fruition of that, given the fact that when you too mentioed it I found the decision as being settled.

I fully agree that we should create the roleplay soon, in fact. I'm going to create it now and link it to you when its made.

RE: The Four Lords
I personally love this idea; It gives one the means to shape ones very own Domain; I'll work on Arthfaels quite soon too, as up til now I've only imagined Hell to be an endless red wasteland with craters and magma cracks etc. Your suggestion is very good in that it creates a lot of individuality.both referring to appearance-wise and sheer difference, for example;

While Arthfael's Domain is likely to be beautiful, with elaborate palaces, wonderful gardens and the likes. It creates a good deal of anticipation to know that Beherith's domain is likely to be completely different, somewhat reminescent of the seven layers of Hell in D&D.

Also, regarding Dorothy's escape from one of the four Lords, we could perhaps say that the one she'd escape from was Arthfael - the reason for this is that as I see it. Succubi are much likier to be a part of his Domain than Beherith (Due to his appearance I can only imagine him to have something to do with undeath and the likes)

Arthfael also happens to remind one of a male Succubi, or Incubi as they're known as, complete with wings, beauty and a relatively humanoid appearance, if one looks away from his wings of course. Arthfael is also very easily angered by the most trivial of things, he doesn't care about horrid oversteps such as betrayal and the likes (What is betrayal to one whom can shape reality at will) - though I've intended for him to become furious at seemingly random moments and for ridicolous reasons, such as someone greeting him wth his left hand instead of his right, eating with the fork in the wrong hand; cutting the meat up the wrong way, etc.

Then again, he may, or may not care about these things, its completely and utterly random: I've decided to follow the personal idea of that the Optimates are a VERY eccentric bunch.

Njalm2 00:09, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

^That sounds an aweful lot like Elysium. Except for the part about souls being pure and virtuous ;) Chrono Nexus

RE: Diabolus
There does not seem to be an issue with the Diabolus. They fill a demon-like niche in the Bleach hierarchy, and are rather well-connected with Bleach. I discussed it with some other admins, and we agree that they seem out of danger. --User:Thepantheon 05:20, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Your Review
Thank you first of all, for a very good review! I got a pretty good picture of where exactly he stood, I'm glad that it was pretty high - I also get the feeling of where I must progress from here, you never actually answered if Diabolus "Evolve" - because I've been playing around with the idea that Rutilus was once a Barghest himself, which then gradually evolved trough pacts and the likes.

Also, I somewhat disagree with the inherrently evil statement. Though I believe most of them to be evil, I think that like hollows, it depends on the person in question - I cannot bring myself to think of Aurora as evil for example, as to me she's simply a loyal little-sister to Dorothy.

I think that there'd be Diabolus versions of Nelliel tu Oderskvank - I for one never once concidered her to be an Evil Character. The same goes for Starrk, Ulquiorra and Grimmjow and Harribel, they're not Evil Characters in my opinions, actually, the more or less only Evil character in Bleach is Aizen, and even he is simply driven by loneliness.

I don't personally believe that there exists something as truly evil, even Dorothy doesn't classify as evil in my opinion. Though she's one of those whom comes the closest, but I'm pretty certain that she has a past which contributes to her personality.

In the case of Rutilus, being born from a soul of a dog (An animal widely regarded as being inherrently good) I am indeed abit reluctant to wholly commit him to the side of evil, because I find wholly evil characters to simply be boring to roleplay as.

Also, I've updated Rutilus page with his Martial Arts Discipline, concidering that it is such a major part of his fighting style - also, it gives me the possibility to increase the fun me and my opponent get in roleplays.

On an additional note, I've created the roleplay between Rutilus & Dorothy, it is labelled as Mistress and the Hound.

Njalm2 16:21, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Mistress & the Hound and other things.
Thanks for your reply, Rutilus is pretty much looking for Dorothy to forward the plot, as well as possibly causing links to Chrono's character. I've not yet talked to him about it but I assume that the Barghest whom were in the area would've been able to discern his location and spy on him from afar.

And yes, Rutilus was once a Barghest himself, and he spent roughly a century building himself upwards to the level of the Daemon that he is today, naturally. Given his hard work, and his potential for improving it has had some impacts on his personality. Flamen is more of the traditional Diabolus, he is unredeemable, and when Dorothy eventually loses, he'll long since be dead. Rutilus is actually intended to forsake her towards the end: Possibly taking Aurora with him (Or kidnapping her, more likely).

The meeting between Dorothy and Rutilus is also better saved for later, when we've both managed to flesh out our characters abit more trough various roleplays and the likes; otherwise it'll become another (You're cool, let me join yer crew, Clichè) this won't work in their case, due to the fact that both characters are pretty advanced.

And when it comes to Rutilus, he's generally slow to anger. I've drawn inspiration from Fuhrer King Bradley in FMA in that. When he does get angry though, he's intended to be excessively brutal and cruel towards his opponent. As simply having the sin of Wrath doesn't mean that your character need to be an angry crybaby all the time.

As for Dorothy, I'm not fond of characters whom are simply 100% evil, I find that to be abit shallow, but then again, she's never known, or cared to have any positive emotions; the Sisterly love for Aurora is a nice breather though.


 * Well, yes, this is a good time to involve Rutilus, Ryuichi and Michael in my opinion, perhaps Rutilus gets some knowledge of Ryuichi and seeks him out himself for the sake of possibly furthering his own growth. Given that Ryuichi's soul would likely boost him immensely in power were he to aquire it. Perhaps Michael and Ryuichi could fight Rutilus together at some point given that he is seemingly stronger than both of them on their own, not to mention that Quincy makes for very good support-fighters in tag-team battles. Also, Ryuichi and Hiroya should probably meet sometime, Hiroya's a Rogue Shinigami of great power, I'm very certain that Ryuichi would be very interested in something like this if he got to know about it; A Shinigami unaffiliated with Soul Society would be an excellent oppurtunity for one wanting to make his very own Zanpakuto. Hiroya could also teach him the basics of Kido if they were to get on good terms.

Njalm2 23:59, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hey
Now, it may have grammer errors, but I have reworded and redone their history. Just when I made them I wanted to make a spiritual race, wher evolution is near impossible. Just I like Hybrids, part or gaining seperate species powers like Vizard and Arrancars as much as anyone, but they are used too often. Just and this is not including their history. A Kosumosukihaku isn't really one until he or she develops their immortality as they age like humans until they acquire it than they stop aging permantaly as they gain eternal life. As they have very limited strength or powers until they do. Also, only immortal Kosumosukihakus can make their zanpakuto. (Note while must do an immortal doesn't have too make one just it is normal.) Inshort, I took out Yahweh and creation of Hecuo Mundo as yes it was boastful but that is why their King helped create with the help of that time's current Soul King. But I removed it. But the first king did create their own world and a few others like Valhalla but its something like the Valley of screams and these worlds are spirit realms but not a large as the other spiritual realms like the Soul Society and Hecuo Mundo, but are large enough to have planet amounts of beings inside of them.

And how they started was in the darkness before the creation of the universe or before time began. The first King and others soon after just imaged themselves into existence, no one or force actually created them. Now that was just the ancestors of the species and other than the King and the royal family all the other clans were weak.: The Twilight of Your Despair 03:55, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

RE:Daemon Canis
Right, I've taken everything you said into account before you said it, as to me, A-Class is usually the highest level one can attain before becoming an Arcus Daemon - the Inugami are diferent from that in that they can only be created trough a very long and time-consuming ritual. Naturally, most Barghests are killed while they are just that, Barghests.

The second state is the one that Rutilus is currently on, Rutilus final goal is to reach the final state in the evolution; the thing that comes after the Inugami; This is even harder to accomplish as one only gets one shot at it. But at the state he is now he's training in order to hopefully becoming an Inugami at some point (Though he's not aware how to become one, as the means of becoming one is intended to be a strictly kept secret) the fact that they have to physically die before the transformation can occur makes it even harder; given that no Diabolus in their right mind would willingly take that risk (It is not guaranteed that one becomes an Inugami even if one does fill all the criterias).

I mentioned after all that the Inugami are very rare: And I'll be sure to find some means as to regulate their growth, the only character whom is going to become an Inugami at some point is Rutilus himself, which I envision to happen after quite a while, most likely towards the end of the Dorothy plot.

The reason the Inugami is regarded as being S-Class is because in Japanese folklore they are regarded as being extremely powerful spirits, roughly equalling that of a Kitsune; which brings me to the fact. I take it you'll take the Kitsune's Nine Tails into careful concideration when creating the race, and eventually your character? I can only imagine that a Kitsune with Nine Tails would be second only to the Optimates in terms of power.

Dorothy, weaker than a Captain? I heavily doupt that, she was able to fight on par with Hiroya, an Aizen/Shunsui-Class Character, while it was evident that she was weaker, her powers were still quite above that of the Average Captain-Level Combatant. At least from my point of view.

And don't worry; while the Inugami are exceptionally powerful compared to most other Daemon they're still not as powerful as Arcus Daemon of slightly above average power - in the terms of Arcus Daemon power, they'd be labelled as C-Class

And by Evolution I don't mean in a classical Pokemon sort of way; "Trancend" is actually a better word to use, an Inugami can only become an Inugami if certain conditions are met, first of all, the one whom would become one need to be, well, like Rutilus, a Barghest being able to assume a perfectly humanoid form and fight effectively in that form - as well as possessing much above the amount of Spiritual Power that Barghest possess, and as such, comitting mass suicide simply doesn't work. The few allready existing Inugami (Which I estimate to be beneath a dozen) doesn't tell anyone how they got their power (If you've found gold vein, do you immedeatly tell everyone else about that very vein? I for one would tap it in utmost secrecy and make sure no one else got to know its location) - the Inugami are concidered to be like a wild shot in the dark, you're incredibly likely to miss, but there is just a very small chance that it might hit.

Also, the Inugami are S-Class basically for plot reasons, what would the meaning be to become one if nothing actually happened? going from A-Class to A-Class doesn't seem especially productive, I also think that the fact that this ain't open to just any Diabolus makes it more balanced. Naturally, Barghest are commonly not inteligent enough to even care about advancing, it just happens.

Rutilus is then something of a rare specimen in and of himself. I hope this shed atleast some light on my reasoning. I've removed the second "Evolution" though, as I realized that there should only be one golden egg, not two.

Oh, and! Given that the Canis are the first Sub-race of exclusively S-Class Daemon, I'll be giving you permission to edit it if you deem it nessecary, as I'm unable to comprehend fully just where you want the Diabolus to go.

Also, I realize that you followed my example in regards to Ryuichi as well! By giving him a clearly defined Martial Discipline! Thats grand, makes the characters much more interesting to roleplay with too boot. Either that, or I'm simply being overly self-concious... again.

At any rate, what I meant was; by the end of Dorothy's plot, when she ultimately loses - she'd do so eventually, no? Like any good villain, after all, they lose their appeal after a while. (I speak from five years of experience in roleplaying villains here) while she needn't die, the role as Main Antagonist should go to another character after a while.

At any rate, what I envision is that somewhere in the far future, Rutilus begins to slowly betray Dorothy; and I can only imagine that Dorothy would lose her interest in him and simply kill him off before he becomes too much of a bother: This causes him to transcend into an Inugami; Rutilus cockily challenges her, and this time they go at it for a while, before well. I plan for Rutilus to ultimately lose that fight as well, as even as an Inugami, he would be weaker than Dorothy: Not to mention that he'd be rather inexperienced in using his new body.

Njalm2 19:59, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Relationships
As an effort to increase the aspect of Rutilus, I've added a "Relationship" section, regarding to the other members of the Diabolus, additionally, I'd like to request to use small thumbnail pictures of the mentioned characters whom belong to you in that section, so as to increase the added reference as well as improving the section alltogether.

Yup, Akira Inugami is way closer to Rutilus than that other guy, the picture was just meant as a placeholder picture anyhow.

Njalm2 22:37, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Help?
could you help me make a character?Neodeath1 09:21, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Ishida Ryuichi Introduction
Right, I think this is a good chance to introduce Ryuichi, because when Rutilus has regained his composure after this he's likely to become VERY dangerous, at this point I think Michael would require a battle-partner, as a Quincy it shouldn't be hard for Ryuichi to track them down either, Rutilus has a great amount of Reiryoku, not to mention the dozens of Barghests, all of which sport High Reiryoku.

Njalm2 10:08, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Howdy Void
I'm doing good Void, thanks. What about you? Still planning the Hōgyaku story-line? At the minute, I'm pretty much slumped with RP's and other joint works here. I've got 4 RP's with Raze, 1 with Koukishi and Twilight Despairs tournament. But as soon as I get those finished up, I'd be more than happy to get a few stories written up with you guys. The group I'd probably be using predominately, to keep in line with my generation II story-lines would be Kentaro Hiroshi and his group, with Naibu Shizuka as a guardian of sorts to keep them alive and out of trouble, though they attract it like a magnet most of the time lol. The problem with having the Ryu Order as a combat force against Dorothy is that the majority of the Order's personal can be roughly split up into three groups: the group that acts as the main strike force against Averian and his hollow, the defensive minded force that guards Horiwari Village and finally the group that helps bolster the defenses of the Rukon District of Soul Society. The war with Averian and now the Imawashii, who are both looking for The Legendary Bakkōtō keeps the Order's hands tied pretty well, so it'd be difficult for the Order to combat Dorothy (loving that race and characters btw) with large numbers or force, even with the numbers they have at their disposal. Kenji-Taichō (Talk) 22:28, March 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * If you wanna see the story-lines I've got running solo at the minute, then check out Bleach (Kenji Hiroshi) to get a good idea. I've saw the Diablous you guys have been creating and I liked their overall place in the world. They've got more to their article than simply powers, as my own Excavado race has for example. You even included the relationship they have with other spiritual entities; so the entire race was an interesting read, Void. Anywho, the only one whose really at lieutenant level among the youngsters of my group naturally would be Kentaro, as he has both Shinigami and Hollow powers, though the latter without an Inner hollow and a few interesting results of that. Naibu's at Captain-level but has next to no spiritual energy and only physical techniques, so no Kidō or mid-to-long range attacks. The only reason he can still utilize his zanpakutō with so little spiritual energy is the fact its powers are utilized by words and not spiritual energy. Kenji-Taichō (Talk) 11:47, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Vialatus Suggestion
Right, I wish to suggest for you that Vialatus serves as Rosalinde's Bodyguard or perhaps even Manager (This last one would be especially useful, given that he can then arrange her works in such a manner that she needn't come in contact with things that may compromise her security as a Diabolus; such as a company wanting her to show off a Silver Necklace or something of the sort.

This would also serve to create the possibility of fun roleplay.

I really hope so, he appears to be a pretty interesting character, also "Akumetsu" is a great manga!

Allright, I've taken some liberties with the media-worlds view on Rosalinde and Vialatus; and given their close connecton and the fact that Rosalinde actually seems to take care of him to an extent (Because of the fact that he's more powerful than she is) I came up with a few possible rumors centered around their possible Romance.

My reasoning for this is the fact that they're both seemingly of equal age, and of course the fact that Rosalinde shows him a great degree of respect (Something she hasn't done to any of her previous managers and colleagues) - And naturally, because she's an international celebrity and that is just the kind of rumors people like to spread about those.

I haven't posted it yet though, and I've decided for your possible decliation, or approval before I'll continue.

Njalm2 14:40, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Illuminate Void
I am working on my greatest creation "Spirit" have any pointers, other than grammer correction. He is an Enputeiiseikon an empty soul. Which is a soul that is created from the release of powerful reiatsu mix with the reishi of a spirit world like the soul society.: The Twilight of Your Despair 21:12, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I am working on him and for what he is he will take time. As for him being emotionless that doesn't mean his is heartless or cold, he is empty as he has no likes or dislikes at first. This mean he doesn't move, blink or anything as doing something even walk is choosing to walk. Inshort he does everything in his mind. Spirit is like a statue never changing. As for why is so smart he has existed for years and while he hasn't moved from his point of creation he still sees everything that happens. Just when he develops the ability to choose to do basic things like what words to say or choosing what foot to walk with he will start his jounery to stop being an empty soul. And I put this here as it is easier than puting on his talk page.: The Twilight of Your Despair 02:38, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Hey soon I will be making the original or first Kosmosukihaku the strongest and oldest one. And while I haven't assected his current power. As the creator of his species small spirit world the Kyuuten no Souzou along with the other small spirit worlds like Valhalla. You have any ideas or want to help me make him. Just I know you are or have made four new grand ruler demons for hell that are too powerful for rping and only for references in rps. And I ask for your help cause you are amazing at these kinds of things.: The Twilight of Your Despair 02:47, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Risutoa or restore is a new power that I am giving to special humans like humans with the ability of Fullbring. What you think?: The Twilight of Your Despair 03:39, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yagami no Kenshin
Man, I really want to find out what kind of Zanpakuto-Type he is. Judging by the picture he appears to be an Illusion-Type or perhaps a Light-Type. ARGH! I'm so curious it kills me! Though, I can only assume that he's going to become Ryuichi's Zanpakuto at some point, or are you planning to make it so that Ryuichi "Makes" his Zanpakuto from scratch?

Oh, that, that is the epilogue, the man is actually Hiroya: He dresses like that before he begins driving, its a habit of his - at any rate, I'm really interested in what Yagami no Kenshin does, who knows, perhaps I could try getting him for Hiroya at some point; would give some more flavor to his character, as well as make sense, given that Shirohane is useless as a weapon.

It'd also give alot of roleplay possibilities. This is of course if you're not going to give it to Ryuichi :)

Well, that is good to know, by the way, I created the Scientist Character for the Diabolus - Acuzio Nox, because I thought we really needed him, given the massacre in the previous roleplay with Rutilus.

And we should definately begin to get started on the Rosalinde & Vialatus Roleplay; I think it has alot of potential.

And yes, Yagami no Kenshin would undouptedly be equal to Hiroya, could be fun if Kenshin gave him some tests to see if he were worthy of weilding him, perhaps a face off in his Inner World? It'd be a really interesting roleplay experience though, eitherway, if it happened. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen a Zanpakuto being roleplayed by someone other than the current owner.

Njalm2 21:59, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Roleplay Suggestion
Hmm, while it is certainly a good idea, I think it might be best not to do so much negative with the children, Bleach is a rather peaceful franchise after all (Well, peaceful and peaceful - its much more peaceful than some of the other animes I've seen) - I think it'd be better to target adolescent boys and girls instead, if children began engaging in such preposterous acts - It WILL come off as highly innapropriate. Besides, you don't need to target children to get a reaction from the good guys :)

What I suggest is, target teenagers from 14-19 years of age, and well, perhaps make them steal, kill, and do other gruesome acts: That would cause much more of a pandemonium than if it were children, what bad can a small child with a dagger do, compared to an adolescent boy with an axe?

I do think that this is best done further into the future, as one of several "Climax" acts, because it'd take quite a good time to set up, even for the Diabolus.

Njalm2 23:41, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yagami no Kenshin: Zanpakutō
I was rather surprised by this Zanpakutō in that its "Offensive" abilities are completely separate from the weapon and exist in the form of Ansatsuhou, which by the way is written as "Ansatsuhō" - as in Japanese "ou" become "ō", learned it from Seireitou, similarily "uu" become "ū".

I liked the new concept of Yagami no Kenshin, though I found it to be something of a waste in regards to the old version; whom I found to be the second successful Illusion-Type Zanpakutō on this wikia (the other one, or well, more accurately. THE only successful Illusion-Type Zanpakutō on this wikia is of course the Zanpakutō of Naibu Shizuka, Jōzai. Other than those two, pretty much all Illusion-Type Zanpakutō were clones of Kyōka Suigetsu.

I'm still quite interested in the Zanpakutō though, as it seems to be highly useful and whats more - highly original: I've not seen a single Zanpakutō like this before. I'm really impressed!

Njalm2 19:28, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

RE: The Optimates
Allright, first off the bat I think it is a rather good idea to have Rosalinde and Vialates attempt to look for Aurora and to attempt to defeat Dorothy; though for this reason I think we should power them up quite abit: Dorothy is too powerful for them to be able to defeat in their current state, even if they cooperate, and given that the Optimates very likely wouldn't send them out on the mission.

As for Arthfael, he can enter the living world trough a Simulacrum - this is a powerfull spell that creates a physical Clone of the persons image, however, due to Arthfaels immense power, it only receives a small amount of his abilities, though it does indeed pass as Aizen-Class nevertheless, at any rate, Arthfael never leaves hell at all, the Simulacrum does: Moreover, he uses his Simulacrum primarily in order to test regional combatants, so as to perhaps create a Tournament or the likes at some point - Arthfael has no wish to conquer the Human World, because if he did, it would strike the Diabolus population very hard, just imagine it - all sorts of Diabolus killing each other over the tiniest Corrupted Soul, the Human population enslaved or eaten - Arthfael wouldn't be able to hold the ball that he's so proud of if that happened!

As for suggestions, I suggest that you make a whole new Hell, beneath the current Hell which is the Optimates' "Plane" of existence, as well as the place where all Diabolus live, I suggest calling this Plane "Niveus Inritus" - Latin for White Void; this is an allegation to the fact that without the Optimates, this Plane simply wouldn't exist. This is also done as a counter-measure to some of the Admins whom might find the Optimates and their powers bad as they are now, and dislike how hell is build up in our little group: Niveus Inritus is close enough for it to be reffered to as "Hell" but far enough not to be hit by any of the Admins repurcussions!

Hey got a second I need to ask a few questions about the four Optimates. Cause I might have future story arc with them or at least an army of diabolus that is ruled by one of them and my immortal pagan deities.: The Twilight of Your Despair 03:42, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Well, as their are four Optimates, War, Famine, Pestilence and Death and each are godlike strong. Well I am making the four Kings of Death, Life, Destruction and Creation.

Example, the Sozoshin or maybe Shinigami rule Death and the Kosumosukihaku rules creation. But what my idea was that Kaosu Souzou is one of the first kings and the first kings are godly powerful. Well one of his creations the indestructible Tenraienko Uchihigure (てんらいえんこうちひぐれ, lit. Divine Arc of Twilight) fall into the possession of one of the optimates maybe Arthfael "Lucifer" Mendax which if he could open it he could use the power inside to destroy the gates of hell and make all of earth hellbound. After all what is sealed inside of that box is the endless darkness that existed before time did or at least some of it. Hell with that the optimates could be powerful enough to take over earth and maybe the other spirit worlds. And Kaosu returns to the Heaven of Creation to stop this. I can come up with better or moree realistic ideas. : The Twilight of Your Despair 05:41, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Ideas
While, I don't think our ideas can work and I am telling you the reasons for and behind what you couldn't understand. But I won't change five months of work.

Before the universe and time existed there was only the endless promordial darkness. And from that the first Kosumosukihakus or immortal pagan deities came into existance. You see they imaged themselves into existence before the creation of the universe and before time began. That is what that means to exist before time began.

The divine ark of twilight and the darkness that is inside is a piece of that promordial darkness. You see the first Supreme King or King of the Kosumosukihakus created to be like tempation for mortals. In a way its like a Hōgyoku times 10,000 in power to Desire Materialization. However, unlike the Hogyoku the darkness in the ark only requires the hearts desire as its power can bring those feeling into existance.

Whenever, a none hollow, arrancar or demonic spirit being opens the ark what comes out takes on the form of their inner hearts desires. However, if the person is evil or has immense hidden evil what normally comes out is overflowing darkness that can do many harmful things and can bestow immense power.

If the person is pure of heart what normally comes out is light or an overflowing light that destroys evil. Other things can come out like weapons or beings. It depends on whomever opens its.

Also, another side idea I have been toying with for a few months is that that there are four "Kings"

The Soul King, The Sacred King, The Silent King, and the Supreme King.

Each Kings rules an aspect. Death/Soul King, Life/Sacred King, Destruction/Silent King, and Creation/Supreme King. Each King while different in strength are equal in terms no King can tell another King how to rule. And the first generation of these Kings were the strongest having god-like powers.: The Twilight of Your Despair 13:55, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Well, truth be told. I need to finish making the other ruling species the Raifutenshi/Life Angels. and the Sairentokeiri which is still a name pending/ Silent Executioner. And each one watches over an aspect. While Hell exist like a prison. And the soul Society and Hecuo Mundo are the worlds next door. These species help to get the natural order from falling apart. My Kosumosukihaku are just an immortal divine species that pre-exist time. They didn't create the universe more like watch time began.

Humans would call them all powerful gods. But enough of my talking. Just even one of the God-like First Kings couldn't take on all four of the optimate at once that would be a death wish. And vice vera no single optimates can take on all four Kings.

Just four gand demons rules hell. and the Four Kings which still don't take the place of God if Tide Kudo ever makes one protects and rules the natural order. And them all being close in power keep the balance of power. Just my story was the arc fell to Hell and one of the grand demons generals finds it in hope of killing the current Kings eith the great power stored inside. Cause you see the current King say for maybe the soul kng are only of Aizen-level.: The Twilight of Your Despair 18:25, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Philosophy is a new type of energy that I have just started. What you think?: The Twilight of Your Despair 21:08, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Well, its kind of spiritual power yet not. Let me explain as I am making the four kings of Death life destruction creation each rule an aspect that can create it. You see it is called Philosophy has it develop with complete understanding and Harmony of these four aspects. However, even if least say a Shinigami develop an uncomplete manifestation as Shinigami rules death that Philosophy is still very powerful. I am still making it now. And yes aside the Kings only the most strongest character can develop it Like Kamui or Kenji.

I got the idea from Sacred Energy (聖光気, Sei Kō Ki, literally translated as Saint Light Energy): from Shinobu Sensui in '''YuYu Hakusho. ''': The Twilight of Your Despair 21:26, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

I did some of the re spacing to Shouhei Soyokaze but after a while the coding stopped so I had to stop. Just I show Him having trouble with Shouhei Soyokaze well I thought I would help. By the way would you like "when" I finish my new kind of energy like a powerful character to be able to use it.: The Twilight of Your Despair 22:56, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Shōhei Soyokaze
Allright, with Hiroya running off to join the Ryu Order, and the fact that he's not balanced enough to take part in the battle against the Diabolus, I've created a new character whose power level is comparable to theirs, but whom is unable to defeat the most powerful of them on his own, he's also somewhat easier to work with than Hiroya, I made him because of the fact that Hiroya's a good notch more powerful than Dorothy and while she's fully capable of defending herself trough manipulations I wasn't quite content with how Inquisition of the Pacifist worked out in Hiroya's terms.

Here's the link to the new character Shouhei Soyokaze, I think it'd be possible to work on him from now on, although Hiroya will appear in Roleplays from time to time, though he'll rarely fight, which fits his personality quite well.

Oh, nothing where you are involved mind you! I just dislike the fact that Hiroya's pretty much powerful enough to be able to take on the majority of the Diabolus in Karakura town alone and emerge victorious: Which is the reason I made Shouhei, I want to experience some difficulties after all - Luckily though, Hiroya's more than content about letting others fight in his stead; I can imagine him to become some sort of a Urahara-type Character in this arc, a character whom is perfectly capable of solving most of the situation on his own with abit of assistance, but chooses not to.

As while Dorothy was foresightful enough to set the stage in such a way as to make Hiroya incapable of finishing her off; such things only really work once: And I find this arc much too interesting to use a character like him.

Thanks for your help, though I'm somehow unable to access the source mode on most of my articles, otherwise I'd allready have done so.

Njalm2 15:37, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Hey
I finally read all my messages and well this is my respond to somethings you address.
 * 1) The Kosumosukihaku's job is mostly the creation of new Reishi (Spirit Particles) in the spirit worlds and the physical world. The creation of new spiritual species and supernatural objects for others. They also protect the natural order like preventing Human from becoming Gods. Also, the protect weapons and objects like the Zettaiteki and the Ark are things that they made or have to make sure that other spirit world Kingdoms don't take other the other worlds. Also as immortal species is why human saw the as gods.
 * 2) The Divine Ark keeps the darkness. The darkness is wll hard to explain. It a way its like pandora's box except that instead of the world's evil and hope sealed inside the darkness inside comes out as the person's most inner heart's desires.
 * 3) Also the reason I only seem to make immortal japanese pagan gods is I have a hard enough time finding japanese transitions.
 * 4) Finally this new energy is in truth the understanding of reality through the four aspects.: The Twilight of Your Despair 01:55, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I read your character's powers. Just I am working on it and I wold like some abilities that could make it seem better.

My species only create minor species like the Varukirri and only the First King could after all him and the other "first" kings of the other ruling species could fight against the Optimates. No king has yet to become that powerful.

In truth and all to gather the protect the supernatural and add on to it. The Shinigami rule Death by Sending Souls to the soul Society or Hell if they were evil soul before Hollow. My species don't think themselves as gods just cause humans with no spiritual awarness can see them and they are immortal the called them gods.

But, I never want to make the a more powerful hogyoku, but about this if the person is evil the spirit energy that comes out is harmful and if the person is good it helps people gives protect, heals etc.: The Twilight of Your Despair 03:03, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. And to create an archive first click edit on your talk page. Then highlight everything and copy it with ctrl+c. Then delete it all and put on your page user:Illuminate Void/Archive 1. Hit save and you will have nothing but a red link on your talk page. Click the red link and it will pull up a blank page for you. Paste all the stuff into there and hit save. That will be your archive. Your talk page will then just have a regular link to your archive then and people won't have to scroll for miles to reach the bottom of your page. This is how you archive.

Finally, the reason they are "gods" is that unlike humans and even souls once they acquire their eternal life they stop ageing permantaly, and their bodies don't don't change in weight or size from when they gained it. But hair still grows. Finally they don't require food, water, air or sleep but still can do them. However they can still be killed An no they aren't vampires. inshort they can live forever as they don't age or requrie anything to live that is all.: The Twilight of Your Despair 03:23, March 16, 2011 (UTC)