Thread:Silver-Haired Seireitou/@comment-24984058-20141112235518/@comment-2089817-20141113010022

I have a tendency to miss certain questions during my responses, I've noticed this lately, so I'm gonna try and break up your message so I can reply to everything and cover all my bases. That, and I'm far too lazy to do it any other way, but more so that I respect your opinion and want to make sure I answer as well as I possibly can.

" For starters, a majoirty of people who take the exam pass in one try and often get a 80% or higher on the exam, overall. Even ones that do not pass in one try make significant changes in their second application and often do much better than they did the first time."

Isn't that a good thing though? You only need a 75 to pass, and only one person from the committee needs to give you that passing grade. The fact that they actually go ahead to make the needed changes and end up getting better scores shows that the system is actually working to advise users toward improving their quality of work, which is the purpose of the exam. If the exam is serving to help in doing that, then I daresay it is serving its purpose well, isn't it?

" I have also found that it tends to be hurtful to the wiki since some people will give up after two or three tries and simply walk away. Granted, these people may not be skilled enough to create "good" articles anyway, but it is still frustrating to see new users simply give up because the  think  the stack is against them. We are all nembies at one point or another and I can see why they would be frustrated, save for the fact I am as stubborn as Naruto and will never give up (BELIEVE IT!)."

Now this, I do agree with you to some degree. I agree that it isn't very good that it ends up frustrating some users and causes them to leave the site. But I've come to accept this possibility by understanding something very crucial about it. Think about sites like NF; more specifically, users like Kasumi and Chidori, if you've seen any of their contributions on NF. They don't care about quality. They lash out at anybody who tells them they need to improve something or they can't do something. They simply don't care. NF has improved from how it once was with Uchiha spam, but sadly it is still stuck at a state where it simply can't become as good as it can be. And it saddens me to see my home wiki like that, which is why I don't want BFF to succumb to the same fate. The exam isn't hard, Prodi. At all. You know it's not. The requirements of the RPCQE are quite literally the most minimum requirements that any quality character should have on this site. Not even quality character, just... any character worth even creating. I mean, really, the only expectation we're the most strict on is the 25,000 bytes, which really isn't hard to do if you care enough about the character. Beyond that, we want to see that people can actually put together something worthwhile. If they can't right off the bat, we don't try to discourage them, but offer our help. We try to give them advice, we give them ideas of what to fix, what to do. If people aren't willing to listen and learn, then ask yourself; do we really want them here? Or more specifically, do we really want them making Aizen and Ichigo clones? It sounds mean. I understand that. But keep in mind that we're not presenting an elitest front, but rather a community front. Users who join this site have to be willing to accept the realization that BFF is about users who work together, listen to each other's ideas and comments, and ultimately, respect one another. People like Kasumi and Chidori, as mentioned before, don't care about that. They don't care about the community, they don't care about quality work, they simply... do not care. And it is allowing shit like that to go down that causes sites to drop down into the proverbial garbage bag. We can't tell people to leave the site nor can we restrict their usage, but with this exam, at least we have a tool that weeds out the users who don't give a shit about our community seriously enough to even bother showing us that they care about putting in effort into their work. I consider this a godsend, personally.

From what I've seen, the exam has been helping. I've asked people many times their opinions on this and their comments were generally positive. I will respect your opinion and re-evaluate the RPCQE to really consider if it is still needed or not, but honestly Prodi, I don't see it repealing anytime soon. Even if BFF's current users are good enough that they don't need to be given the assessment, the same can't be said for future users that come here. And as the veterans, it is our duty to show new users that nobody is "too good" for the same policies; hence why even I was required to take the assessment. And my character, Iyori Mochizuki, has been remained unchanged to serve as a good example of what the RPCQE is looking for; which, in my opinion, really isn't much.