User blog comment:ShonenChicoBoy/Thanksgiving and the Other Turkey in the Room/@comment-24384232-20161126020422/@comment-3403804-20161129091101

Alright, first off, you're absolutely terrible at being harsh. There's no reason to post disclaimers ahead of comments if you're not gonna scream or yell; the only thing insulting about your comment is that you imply I would get my boxers in a knot over a mere disagreement. I'm not a child, Shonen, I can handle a constructive debate just fine.

First point I'd like to bring up is that the Coven is an unusual organization in that its power is scaled to the entire wiki as a whole, commonly, a villain or group of villains are scaled to the average power of the heroes in the story, in our case, there is such wide discrepancies in character power that the result is equally wide discrepancies in the powers of our antagonists. This would be the case no matter our antagonists, if say Shigenaga or Megumi were the ultimate villain of the Fanon Canon, similar plot holes would arise, as there are characters on this site who could erase them in the blink of an eye. The Coven needs to be able to challenge EVERYONE, from Fullbringers to the greatest powerhouses on this wiki – its simply not neccessary for the Fullbringers or Captains to ever go against the Archmages; because of characters like Sakaala, Toso, Seireitou, Shingen, Hiroya, characters like those definitely have the potential to stop the upper echelon of the Coven.

Secondly, cliches are cliches precisely because they work, Shonen. They're avoided because adding them can end up jeopardizing your book; as few publishers would publish a book rife with them. In our case, no publisher would ever publish anything we write on this wiki, and no one would be completely wowed by reading our roleplays; precisely because they're a collaborative effort, a written game, not a novel or book. Ultimately, attempting to make a grand story with this many participants while still keeping the momentum flowing is just not realistic, especially if we're gonna second guess our every move and established action because it doesn't live up to literary standards. Ultimately, the purpose of the FC is to bring the community together and have fun, not to prove that we're a group of aspiring authors with grand ideas ready to enter the literary world as surely as J.K Rowling.

Thirdly, in regards to them keeping the world hostage; when I say this I don't mean that they neccessarily have a super mega ultra death lazer capable of wiping out the earth; although, they do infact have three. Its more about how they threaten to use their magic to cause wide-scale catastrophes – an example being, of course, raising the dead to terrorize a country, plunging another into an eternal winter, things like that – all of these are things the Coven could do which is reasonable TO do. Ultimately, the Coven would never outright destroy the human world, since that would be utterly idiotic; but well, humanity would be shocked at just what they can live through.

As for their motivation, it is very much a work in progress – we've got the WHAT, but as you said, we don't have the WHY. It should be noted that Shijin has little interest in power for the sake of power, in fact, most mages are content with what they already have --- the primary motivation is most likely benevolent in nature, at least to them. In their eyes, following the repeated and disastrous fiascos of how the Shinigami could be overwhelmed by mere Quincy, they likely consider it not only neccessary, but their DUTY to overtake Soul Society so that the balance of souls is never compromised like that ever again. To achieve that end, some of them are willing to justify great atrocities. Focusing on that angle might be more conductive to improving interaction -- magocracy would not be the intended goal as much as its logical conclusion due to their natural bias towards magic.

Would a world controlled by the Coven be better than one controlled by Soul Society? To be honest, I'm unsure – I suspect they would treat the Rukon citizens better than the Shinigami but not by much. At any rate, due to their habit of using brutal force and other ruthless methods, I assume that Xstence would be unlikely to throw their lot in with them, especially now that Kohaku is set to die at their hands. In the case of Xstence, their involvement against the coven would likely be very personal as a result.